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The Interview, a regular feature of The Catholic New World, is
an in-depth conversation with a person whose words, actions or
ideas affect todays Catholic. It may be affirming of faith or
confrontational. But it will always be stimulating.
Gonzales puts faith on the line, on the road
This week,as part of its continuing focus on various aspects of
vocations, Catholic New World staff writer Michael D. Wamble talks
with Deacon Jose and Lucila Gonzales.
Faith.
What other word better describes Jose Gonzales decision over
20 years ago to enter the permanent diaconate as a married man,
while not having yet met his bride?
Talking to the deacon (Class of 80), and his wife Lucila, its
clear this couple has found a way to juggle duties at home, at
work, and at two parishes on the Northwest Side where the deacon
couple ministers.
At his first assignment, St. Peter Canisius, Deacon Gonzales
openness to the plight of others led to the formation of a ministry
to prisoners serving in central Wisconsin.
His desire to reach out to the citys Hispanic community was the
catalyst in the creation of a new ministry to Spanish-speaking
parishioners at St. Bartholomew and a Mass in Spanish.
Despite minor bouts of doubt and questions about if hes making
an impact, those he has touched, he said, sometimes make him feel
like an MVD: Most Valuable Deacon.
Catholic New World: How did you first learn about the diaconate
program?
Deacon Jose Gonzales: Back in 1975, I started going back to church at St. Sylvester.
It was in the summer of 76 that I was renewed by the Holy Spirit.
Before that happened I hardly attended church. At a charismatic
retreat I met the Lord in a very special way and I just decided
to come back to the [Catholic] Church and serve at St. Peter Canisius.
I was so filled with the Spirit. The fire was there. I wanted
to learn the Bible. I had thought about attending Moody Bible
Institute to learn the Scriptures. Thats when a friend said,
Instead of going there, why dont you go into the diaconate?
I talked to friends of mine who were deacons like Jose Uroza (Class
of 77) and they helped guide me through the process. The whole
time I felt like this was what God wanted me to do.
CNW: Were you married at the time you decided to become a deacon?
DJG: No. At the time that I was interviewed [by late Father Larry
Gorman to enter the diaconate program] I didnt know my wife.
They asked me, Would you like to bring a girlfriend to the classes?
And I said, When I meet her, Ill bring her. I knew I wasnt
going to enter the diaconate as a single.
CNW: How did you two meet?
Lucila Gonzales: When I came to Chicago, I lived with my aunt and her husband
who were involved in the parish and knew Jose. I participated
in a Cursillo there. On the last night, they held a clasura (closing).
Since Jose knew my family he came to clasura and saw me there.
I didnt notice him at the time.
DJG: (Laughs.) But I noticed her.
LG: That night, the participants formed a receiving line. Thats when
Jose said he saw me.
DJG: Before that night, I had been praying every day and night to
God telling him, You know I cant be single. I told him, if
thats what you want me to do youd better grant me the gift of
celibacy. And I prayed and asked him to show me the girl. I
wasnt getting any younger and I figured it wouldnt be easy.
The only reason I was there was because a friend invited me. There
were 100 ladies in the receiving line. When I walked up to Lucy,
I saw her smile. She smiled at me and all of a sudden I knew she
was the one.
Now, Im arguing with Godin my mindtelling him, This cant
be. Then my friend, who turned out to be her uncle, invited me
back to a party in his nieces honor. When I got there, I knew
it was God at work.
Her [late] grandmother was also at work.
LG: Yeah. My grandmother had this way of reading people. Shed always
tell me, since most of my family is back in Puerto Rico, that
I dont want to die without knowing youre in good hands. Thats
grandmas for you.
So six months before he was ordained we became Mr. and Mrs.
CNW: Have your ministries been primarily in parish life?
DJG: Theyve been mainly in the parish. Ive also had a vision to work
in prison ministry. Father Gorman told me the program needed a
Hispanic deacon to visit the MCI (Metropolitan Correctional Institution)
in Chicago.
Although I had a year to go in my formation, I began to volunteer
there. It inspired me to begin work in prison ministry in 1987.
A St. Peter Canisius parishioners relative was going through
the trial process. I knew the family. The young man was sentenced
to serve time at Oxford penitentiary in [central] Wisconsin. Knowing
me, he asked the chaplain if we could visit him. Another prisoner
wrote our pastor requesting a Hispanic minister to visit the prison.
We started going two to three times a month. The group at St.
Peters goes about once a month. We leave out at 4 a.m., arrive
at 8 a.m. and spend the day there. Both ministries are still going
strong.
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