The Interview, a regular feature of The Catholic New World, is
an in-depth conversation with a person whose words, actions or
ideas affect todays Catholic. It may be affirming of faith or
confrontational. But it will always be stimulating.
This week, Catholic New World staff writer Michelle Martin talks
with Doug Delaney, executive director of the Catholic Conference
of Illinois.
When Catholic voters go to the polls Nov. 7, they are not to leave
their consciences at home with their campaign buttons. Instead,
according to the U.S. bishops quadrennial guide to political
issues, Faithful Citizenship: Civic Responsibility for a New
Millennium, they are to use church teachings and moral principles
to help them make their decisions.
In the same way, the Illinois bishops use the Catholic Conference
of Illinois to voice the churchs position on a variety of issues
by lobbying lawmakers and taking public stands. Doug Delaney,
executive director of the conference, recently discussed what
Faithful Citizenship means.
Catholic New World: Faithful Citizenship makes the case that
Catholics should bring their faith to bear on public decisions,
including voting. What issues do you think Illinois Catholics
should be thinking about when they go to the polls in November?
Doug Delaney: I think the first and most important issue is the sanctity of
human life, and that goes from conception to natural death. The
respect for human life encompasses our entire reason for existence.
We take care of the poor, we take care of the elderly, we take
care of the vulnerable because they dont have a voice in the
political system.
I think the life issues for the church are consistent across the
board: abortion, euthanasia and the death penalty. I think that
the Catholic bishops have done a fantastic job of making the death
penalty a life issue and our governor has. We have a moratorium
on the death penalty in Illinois because of the problems with
the death penalty. I think its also important to look at the
entire criminal justice system, because certainly if weve found
13 people in Illinois on Death Row who were falsely tried and
convicted, theres got to be a lot of other people with long prison
terms who have been falsely convicted.
The Catholic Church has education as one of its major emphases.
The [Archdiocese of] Chicago school system is the 11th largest
school system in the country and in the state of Illinois, theres
over a quarter of a million children in Catholic schools. I think
thats something legislators need to consider. First of all, its
the wish of the parents and the wish of the people of Illinois
to have another education system, and on top of that, it saves
the state literally billions of dollars. One out of seven children
in Chicago is in a Catholic school, and one out of 10 children
in Illinois is in a Catholic school.
CNW: Given the variety of issues that there are, do you think its
possible to talk about such a thing as the Catholic vote?
DD: No, I dont think theres a Catholic vote. The Catholic bishops
have tried to educate the Catholic voters to be involved in the
process, first and foremost. You have to vote, even if your ideal
candidate is not one of the options.
Its important that we look at the issue of the voter the same
way we look at the issue of the candidate. We say of political
candidates that you cant have a personal position and not carry
that with you into political office. For example, you cannot say
Im pro-life, but its not my position to carry that into the
political arena. The same thing goes with people who are voting.
They have to look at the position of the candidates and decide
when they vote for them, where is this person going to be on these
issues? Its a difficult task.
CNW: How well prepared do you think voters are, and what can they
do to be better prepared?
DD: I think that people are pretty well prepared. The thing that
concerns me is that they may be too influenced by the media. I
think that people need to find some independent positions. They
need to find documents like Call to Faithful Citizenship or
attend forums where questions are asked of the candidates. If
we just basically go by what the [secular] media says, I think
were not getting the full picture.
We at the Catholic Conference
have sent copies of Faithful Citizenship to more than 400 state
and federal candidates who are on the ballot in Illinois, and
we encourage voters to call the candidates and ask about the issues
Faithful Citizenship talks about.
CNW: What if somebody looks at all the candidates and evaluates
all their positions and decides that the one they really want
to vote for is a third or fourth party candidate who really has
no realistic chance of winning? Is that a wasted vote?
DD: I dont think any vote is a wasted vote. If that person feels
thats the best place to cast their ballot, then I think they
should. We do have a very powerful two-party system, but there
are some instances where independent candidates or other party
candidates have won elections. I think that one of the reasons
most people say they dont vote is the two parties are the same.
CNW: The presidential election is getting the lions share of
the attention right now, but we also have legislative and congressional
races coming up. What issues is the Catholic conference going
to be working hardest on in the next year or two?
DD: First and foremost, the conferences agenda is based on a preferential
option for the poor, so we will continue to try to take care of
the most vulnerable. Certainly well be looking at the area of
education, and how can we help parentsespecially, once again,
poor parentswho have chosen an education for their children thats
not in the public school system. We also have been supportive
of equitable and fair funding for the public school system. I
think sometimes the rhetoric is that the Catholic school system
wants to take money away from the public school system. Our position
is to fully fund the public school system, and then help those
parents who want to make the choice to send their child to another
school, to a Catholic school specifically. Health care is always
going to be an issue, and how do we provide health care for those
who have no health care. As a Catholic Church, we need to make
sure that were taking care of immigrants that are coming into
this country, especially children and the elderly, those who are
least able to make their way. We need to provide adequate funding
for our Catholic Charities and social service agenciesthats
an ongoing fight we have every year, to try and increase the money
we get from the state to provide these services.
CNW: We have the tuition tax credit in Illinois. Do you see a
push for vouchers or are we not ready for that yet?
DD: Well, I dont know if itll actually be a voucher. Theres other
ways of getting money for our schools. Thats a political climate
that I think needs to be developed by someone other than the Catholic
Church. Certainly, the Catholic Conference will support vouchers,
the cardinal supports vouchers. The question is, whos going to
lead the charge? If the Catholic Church brings a voucher initiative
forward, its easier to defeat because its a self-serving self-interest
issue. If, for example, we could get the business community and
business leaders in Chicago and throughout Illinois to say its
important to have two education systems. It makes both of them
stronger. We need to support the public school system, but its
also advantageous for us to have children coming out of another
school system, a non-public school system, whether its Catholic,
Lutheran, Jewish or non-sectarian. In some instances, its better
for the child to be in an alternative education system. I dont
think that fact can be debated. Its just a matter of how we approach
the issue. The fact is non-public schools save the state and the
taxpayers a lot of money, and I think that weve successfully
convinced the legislature of that with some of the programs weve
been able to pass in Springfield. I think its going to be an
issue for a long time. There are voucher issues on the ballot
in Michigan and California. Well look at those and see if the
time is right in Illinois for a voucher initiative.
CNW: If we do see a voucher initiative, do you see it being something
statewide or something that targets families and children in struggling
schools?
DD: There are lots of options. To me it would seem to be most advantageous
to help the poor. If wealthy people decide to send their children
to a non-public school, they can make that choice. Those who are
poor are the least able to make that choice. What we need to do
is have the representatives who represent those individuals in
the legislature support that program. Thats where our work is
cut out for us: to convince those who represent those of less
means to be able to choose an alternative education if they want.
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